Liam Gaffney: Think pop up now.
Liam Gaffney: And then I will just say, PLEASE, FRANK. Tell us all about sizzle residents to 454 billion. Thanks.
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: Thank you, Liam and thank you to the angels of our organization these seminars and in giving us an opportunity to present the results in these times.
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: Well, as you heard on my postdoc at the University of Oslo.
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: And being impossible for two years or more, not things I defended my PT and
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: Saw the results. I'm going to present today and they correspond to experiment that we didn't you ask around 2015
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: And it wasn't integration with the some colleagues around from more say and the University of Liverpool mainly
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: So before I go to a specific experiments. I will tell you a little bit about what we do here muscle. So for the since the early 80s, the main line of work here, the University of Oslo or the integral piece is group based to measure the two main our nuclear properties.
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: The low density and they understand function. So when we are in the quasi continuum region where we cannot separate the
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: Levels exponentially. Because every closely show then we use this our quantities sensitive. He's a number of levels per unit of
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: Energy and the answer and function which is connected to the outer actually gave durability. So in a way, is probably the nucleus to be gay by meeting gamma rays to a certain energy
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: So these two quantities. They are an essential ingredients for calculating neutron capture rates that are relevant for
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: Simulating astrophysical processes like be our process.
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: So,
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: If so, once a component use this form.
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: The probability of decaying with dependence day I'm assuming function. If we have residences in the Amazon function, then I will has the priority of modern culture, right. So, especially for the our process and the heaviest new place in our process. There is a fundamental question of
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: Which elements are creating our process and how far our process. Yes, yet.
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: And so for these very hairy elements fishing is one of the fundamental obligations and
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: So the height as efficient Barbier relative to a new energy is the most important and quantity to determine the survival of the nucleus.
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: But for those in class, which have sufficiently high efficient barrier. They said, I'm a division between neutron capture and fishing. So if we have a large resonance in the gamma, gamma, gamma function that will enhance the probability of capturing a nuclear fission.
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: And hearing loss know we have measured
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: In the minor aconites
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: Or the last 10 years we have measured 10 different localize and Jonathan functions and we have served
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: A resonance in the tool to form a reiteration that is the so called scissors resonance
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: And the CCE of resonance is a magnetic Bible acceleration is a collective vaccination, that is connected to the information and it was first described in this paper of 1978 and is described as
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: Rotation associations out of phase of protons and neutrons around a common axis. And there's a small angle there is a small angle between the this
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: Seemingly actually software nucleus nucleus of the to class problem using cloud. So that's why it's called the Caesars mode.
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: And it turns out, actually. And this is only one of the components of the thesis mode. So the
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: Hiring for you to two articles that use a slightly different format is Monday described to see some calls are made of different components. So the classical symbols are the products and nucleus and neutrons. They do relational associations are face.
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: Independently of the operation of the speed. But it turns out that you have different components, depending on the duration of the ISIS being and the blending of the Bridgewater speed. So it could be that the
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: Protons and neutrons we spin up, they are in face they and then they told me that I promise on the Newton's we've been out for a couple that are
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: Our face and then this will be some kind of a spin sisters mode and the corresponding center, it will be a slightly different energy and it's this explains the splitting of the seas of residents that we have seen hearing also in the in a minor aconites
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: So regarding the motivation of our
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: Experiment. So the beer for one strengths that we have measure in the minor aconites are in the range of 7.82918 square nuclear magnitudes and
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: These are large values and these are much larger than the ones we have mentioned, for example in there and processing isotopes that they are more defined and we have mentioned about five squared mobile management.
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: So this is references larger in heavier ups. So this was happening. But in the case of the very heavy elements in the walking out process.
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: And so we wanted to to measure 254 million because actually is one of the super heavy nucleus that you include the largest section. So you see, in a way, from this opportunity. I say he says case.
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: And we wanted to confirm the presence of the thesis mode in spring.
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: And
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: We wanted to estimate that we have a one strength of the season mode and compare this estimation with the calculations and the final version phenomenology called formulas are currently use and we actually codes.
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: So we need the spring when you ask Allah
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: Into soccer 15 we use the costume 48 being on a on a lead to a target.
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: So the target was place here in the center of urine to so we use the uterine detectors to
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: Measure the human race then then records they went through the retail fragments and brighter, where the beam particles were separated and then the records were implanted here there for a plane.
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: Where we had a series of detectors for doing the game spectroscopy. This is, this was not the main purpose of the experiment main purpose was to to look at from
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: The gay
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: So this is a single whole spectrum that we got from the fragment. So this is required gated so we had a gas detector, just before the photo plane.
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: Where we could separate further and
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: Being like particles and went through a separator. We're not separated and by the ad on the time of flight of the record.
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: And gauging on the energy deposited in this gas effective. So we could you include the spectrum further by gave you on the athlete gay of 254 new a new client. But then we would lose more than 50% of the events because of because of the efficiency of their alpha decay.
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: So we got about 50,000 gamma rays in total and in the low end tuition. We are we are served the same discrepancies that had been previously previously absurd.
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: I want to make a comment here that we couldn't use previous data from this
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: And glad we had to repeat the experiment because before the gain of the
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: Human index was was set to a very high value because there was no interest in measuring gamma rays or two movies or the spectrum and sent to me. So we, there was no higher GM and re energizing previous recording pieces pregnant. So we have to repeat the experiment.
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: So this is a
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: Full
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: Gamma Ray spectrum. There we go. So this is unfolding.
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: As you see here. So in the region between 1.53 a movie we see some bump or enhancement of gamma ray intensity and I'm showing here in comparison, the, the corresponding inspector.
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: That we obtain 496 lead in the same experiment. So we run for a while with 150 for someone target. So we could get 126 letters spectra spectrum that we could use for a bench marking comparing our results in a way
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: So in the case of on and he says lead is a semi magic nucleus, we, we do not expect to see any sense of presence or us, we expect them the spectrum is flat in this region in construct in contrast to a case of 254 million
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: So to confirm the magnetic character of the enhancement of gamma ray energies that we saw of gamma ray intensity that we saw in in our singles the spectrum. We did the linear regression analysis. So we had a Florida, Texas. I were position on it race.
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: And so when you have a
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: Fusion operation reaction.
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: The reaction creates a cemetery axes that is
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: Aligned with the with the beam particle and with the beam.
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: And then magnetic transitions with them to scattering the direction of the beam and elected positions with tenders counter particular to the
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: To the beam.
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: So we can look at the electric or magnetic content creation and so I'm showing here, the corresponding effect of for new alien and lead
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: So in the case of lead. They have been a previous version experiment.
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: Where that we could use for comparing our. It's also we see here in the business in the case of lead in the low energy region up to 500 K. We are so we have the end one transitions. So the NCO spectrum is a spectrum where they scrabbling, of course.
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: Along the directions. So we see that from an ethical creation, then
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: The blue spectrum dominates or the red spectrum and the salt and one transitions from the cheers man on the
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: Left and then they eat will transition start appearing actor by former Navy and in this case the spectrum dominance
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: And it's the same. The case of lead. So, we have here the graphs, a band sensation. Sorry to physicians and then we see that the red spectrum dominates. And in the case of the
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: 2.5 maybe or so there is a big of
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: In the blue spectrum. So the broad spectrum dominance. And so the predominant magnetic character can be seen easily if we plot the plot session symmetry.
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: There is a difference between the big areas between the randomly blue spectrum. And we see there are some bands in 254 million, they, they have a positive symmetry. And then the broad peak at 2.5 million, we have very strong mayor. The imagery
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: So he this
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: Confirms how interpretation of this enhancement of gamma ray intensity or 2.5 million Cincy source residents.
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: So the next step in our works also try to estimate the strength of Sussex a precedence for doing that we we we did simulation. So we, in this case, we cannot measure the answer functional as we do here and also normally because we we don't know the extension energy. So we, we have to
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: Do simulations to try to reboot your system into spectrum and to use different values are there and one strength and try to rebuild use it the rest we can
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: We can love because we know the entry. So the solution was make sure in Argonne National order using exactly the same reaction and gamma sphere as a calorie mentor.
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: Using this known experimental entertained solution, then we can simulate a 254 million nucleus using it and more for delivery density
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: And then we populate the nucleus here Sunday interstate tuition that we know and then we use different models or day Jonathan function to simulate that again.
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: Of the nucleus.
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: So we use a cold rainy are doing the simulations.
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: Is a call that is written in c++ is similar to dice box, but it's easier for people who are not to use for track and it's also very simple to
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: Read them more
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: So first we use a pure you want strength. So we did not add any
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: And one strength to our simulations.
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: And you will use different combinations of level than most for low density on day and age, you want strength and so if if we use only any one strengths so we we don't get any bump.
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: In the Spectrum. Spectrum is is pretty small. And we are not able to reproduce enhancement within this spectrum.
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: If we introduce and then one lawrenson that is located around 2.5 and
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: Then we can reproduce the bump, and then we, I'm sure. Here also the this dashed line is a supplementation Parliament that session for today. You want strength that is from the same paper.
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: From CNN.
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: So one of the simulation. I'm showing here are the 10 best simulation celebrations. The 10 best simulations of people use the the exponential spectrum and to our way the
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: The
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: The comparison to see how well they compare. We were chi square
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: We are going to chi square function and they want to get the lowest value is the one which is for mid
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: Semester. So we sample different parameters for the one strength with total a beautiful one strength from 4.5 to 31 square nuclear monitors and we sampled from wireless of the width of the learnings Ian and
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: The sanctuary.
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: From 24 to 26 and principal center, it should correspond to center of their singles spectrum.
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: We put all the simulations where and we see if we during the lowest points with a pinata within the recent minimum around 12
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: So 11.8 squared with the mountains, the
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: interpolated me with that we got from North English. So we, there are some points there are around 30 years clinical managers that are on there parabola, what we consider to be
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: Outliers, they they reproduce very well the region of the bump.
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: And but they don't people use well the spectrum. After tree. Maybe they understand a different spectrum. That's why their strengths are so large and so we discard these bodies.
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: And so the next step in our work was to compare the results from from the simulations to calculations and phenom illogical formulas
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: So we started with QR BA calculations. They were performed by the wrong kinds of people from or saying cyclic
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: And although they are the first look. They don't seem to rebellious. Well, the simulations result of simulations, they actually do quite well if we we cannot compare that actually the simulations to total
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: Internal of our lawrenson because the interest expense or whole energy access
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: In the case of simulations are concentrated in a small regional or wanting to me. So if we integrate the ranks in using their region of the pitch within 1.73 me and we get about 9% is going to manage that compares quite well with the results from the simulation.
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: And
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: Actually there to use the simulations. They are normally folded into urgency and there's a method in this article to describe how how this whole thing is done.
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: So I followed the simulations.
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: And we also have to play shift because they take your pH aggressions they systematically overestimate the energy of the states because they miss correlations that they cannot be considered because they are highly computational complexity costume. So
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: This chief the system article obtain in Northern Aggression for the one for them so they also by shift to a lower synergy and we fire apply the chief that they recommend in this article them.
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: The simulations, they compare quite well with the calculations.
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: But in in our processing relations. Nobody. They do not use Pacifica collections, but they use fundamental rushing formulas that somehow try to
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: estimate the value of the services for all look like all in line was in the in the process. So we are competing with tooth and on Russia fullness that we found.
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: And I had seen that before this working 2017 we we think there will be no one sees right I was not used at all in our process and simulations.
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: So we found two recently. First one from 2017 and from this fascinating that the
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: glutes fundamental ratio formulas to to consider this thesis more in the in the answer function. So in this case,
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: For this formula, we see the strength is is very large incomprehensible while we get from the simulations.
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: Also a sanctuary. This shifted quite a lot towards higher energies, so
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: These formulas, do not seem to work well in this was region.
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: We use. We tried this whole formula. The results are slightly more reasonable. But still, the strength is what half of the strength and we estimate from our simulations.
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: And also there's
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: A boss formulas, a lot at 1.5 and we were fixed with earlier.
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: Leon and it seems
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: To be too large with Allison this mass region and because of lack tonight's I think except one of the nucleus, although I had with lower than one we
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: There is an expression, they say.
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: It's a bit older from 2005 or actually decrease a different description, but the sun moves estimation, are you all are so we we see that the soon rule.
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: Model actually rapidly uses quite well and our results and it does reduce our weather strength in the case of the minor aconites
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: So in this case I plotted the lawrenson using an SEO point five with that is what they use in the case of the Q AMP a simulation to to to fall the calculations into a learning thing.
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: Well that's thus the seat that what I wanted to show you
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: These are the names of all the collaborators. Most of they haven't seen the presentation. So I hope it's really showing their names here thing. I want to thank everybody for their contribution and I want to finish with a small summary of the talk.
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: So we, we have served the CCE refreshments in 254 million and we have confirmed
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: The medical director of the enhancement, we see by doing linear perception measurements.
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: And by performing simulations we estimate that the strength is on top nuclear
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: Nuclear a square Nuba Mountains squared.
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: And so I want to say here that these results are in a way more dependent. So it depends on which model we choose for the
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: You want strength so model simulations were
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: performed using this tangle ransom for the one strength which in a way he say he's a very large estimation of the one strength.
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: But we also performed simulations using a enhance, you know, I looked at the mall and Ali spindly
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: Resonance, as recommended by the free poultry.
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: And that was actually what was used in the case of the minor activists and we see that the songs are racing pretty similar.
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: Using either both
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: Malls, or the one string.
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: We tested also different parameters for the DVR, and it's the results are quite on sensible to assurance of the parameters.
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: Either calculations or estimation from glossies Maddox. We were switched around the strength of the components of the ER and it doesn't make any effect in the strength and the energy of the sea, so small.
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: We compare it with the European calculations and they reduce well our simulations and it should be.
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: Their way I did the folding to arrange that is not exactly the same way described in the paper. So it should be some care when folding the, the, the result from the simulation seem to arranging I have to see. We would outsource on paper.
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: And while these differences that we get. But this has read only memory care for way.
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: I compared with the tools and I'm going to actually go formulas that are currently using the crack era reaction goals and they, they do not reduce well our souls and they were tested also in the case of the minor academics and they. Similarly, they know rapidly as well. The results.
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: However, in this mass region of the United some
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: Know million 254 including we find that the song grow estimations using a receipt moment of inertia, because
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: If you, if you use a grass at the moment of nurture. We had about half of the strength that we see. And so if we modify the sample a while using the original definition that we see that they seem to rebuild as well.
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: The results. So maybe that this is the formula that
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: Could be used in this masturbation.
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: Didn't say, I don't know.
Liam Gaffney: Thank you very much. Yes, thank you, thank you, you, you're on half an hour. So it's plenty of time for for production.
Liam Gaffney: Of which I'm sure there will be many so if you if you do have a question for Frank, then please go to the participants menu and you you can raise your hand.
Liam Gaffney: There if you want. If you'd like to ask a question. And there's also people giving you digital. APPLAUSE So I'm sure there will be many questions, but okay well jack is already in there before I can before I can ask him so jack. Please go ahead.
Jack Henderson: Hey,
Jack Henderson: Yeah, sorry to be earlier, the
Jack Henderson: I just had a question, a question about the unfolding. You mentioned you unfold spectrum.
Jack Henderson: Yes sir spectrum. I like that. How exactly do you unfold. Your observed spectrum to get your I guess what your assumed spectrum. You're sitting against is that my messaging us, how do you do the simulation.
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: Yes, so we we use the we use a method for unfolding.
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: That is a useful method that we use hearing also for holding our data.
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: So we took some source data and we get it to get some more energetic spectra on the sources.
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: We use
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: Each room and calls and 56 cold and
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: We built a response function using this energetic inspector in the region.
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: From like 482 I think the
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: highest energy line that we use was
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: 3.1 of the lines from the got three when something. Yeah. And so from there on, we had to extrapolate the
Jack Henderson: Dysfunction. You have any multiplicity dependent stuff in there because obviously these you wanted, presumably going to cascading something along. So do you have any any any way of dealing with the potential multiplicity changing the case going
Jack Henderson: To be a single
Jack Henderson: Single decay.
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: And now we now I'm I'm sort of all that. So I'm trying to think. Now, what will be effect of the multiplicity unfolding or spectrum.
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: Now we will definitely we I, I didn't think about it, but I don't know if he has any effect or not because we have respond function that were measured the anomalous you answer. We have some specific been and we correct for efficiency and for all the we put back on a quantum
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: ranson single paper or scape into our being. And then we get the number of the answer we should measure that be and then feasible to be in the middle of the multiplicity, if I
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Jack Henderson: Yeah, we can take it may be more complicated. I don't, I'm not sure I know it's hard with very high efficiency or a sometimes there's a multiplicity dependence on the total energy because i don't i'm not sure other situation with Virginia right
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: Now we need our mark. So we have the claws and vector. So, this is nice and these experiments at Mark also so we could do an all day event. So where did they come to the same floor.
Jack Henderson: I mean, it seems like quite a significant access, so I can imagine it's a dramatic.
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: We, we, and then we unfold the, the source of Specter. Now we got we check know the correct and she raises the different peaks.
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: And he had kind of a
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: Radically sea or in between pics and we have eliminated all their content.
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: Single escape, escape weeks so
Jack Henderson: Okay, okay.
Liam Gaffney: Thank you. So I'm still checking if anybody has any questions in the participants menu and Phil as beat me again. So, Phil, please go ahead and you can ask your question.
Philip Adsley: I was just waiting to you into a false sense of security and I have a a naive question about this scissors resonance and
Philip Adsley: So, as far as I understand that it's related the magnitude of the citizens residents, the strength matters related to the beta that the quadruple defamation. Is that right,
Philip Adsley: What happens in cases where say you've got shape coexistence and to low lying states with different destinations. Is there a scissors residents.
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: Another very valid question. And this a
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: Because also, you know, there is a tendency with the grass. The information, but it's not is they don't say formation is not the information that you have when you when you are high resolution images and also the dependency we there is a formation and
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: If you look at the screen data.
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: The total strength. That is something from permission discrete lines in the CCE operational region.
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: Is a very striking
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: Behavior with the square of the information, if I recall
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: But
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: So I happen to have a mock up slide here.
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: While we so it's actually here. So while we mentioned he and also
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: We normally measure more strength that we do that they do when they mentioned discrete states. And this is, in a way, understandable because
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: You have a lot. You can have more strength of reading only one state, but you have also many other small Satan that actually are below the threshold.
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: We love the detection limits and so when you look at mentioned only discrete states. It could be. There is a lot of small sites or you're missing there. So you are you for sure will be missing strength.
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: And then, in our case for the agonize, it's not sure that we see the same dependency with the square of the information that they see. If you look on the screen.
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: So this these are these are know exactly, so this is this formula.
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: This
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: Formula. You see here uses the, the, the strength is dependent on the square of the information and the certificates and doesn't doesn't reboot as well. There is hopefully we get
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: So he's i don't i don't know i don't know but he say something definitely no no straightforward. We go say you can also information. It's not the same information and highest additional
Philip Adsley: Okay, thank you.
Thank you for
Liam Gaffney: Very interesting point, especially when you then also consider that all the complexity that you get a higher energy that you know you're able to folding.
Liam Gaffney: And are there any other questions I check. Go ahead, please.
Marcus Scheck: Hold certain can you be that you don't have spin flips in both this nuclear
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: Yeah, so
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: I also have a slide for that.
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: So in the case of some minor Act. The Knights
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: In order to rebuild use the one strength. They use the yellow model and they are the pink slip from the recommendations of the every poultry.
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: I've recently I was looking at the PhD thesis from
Marcus Scheck: The upshot.
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: Where they have measure and one strength.
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: And definitely this
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: And one spin flip those recommended in in triple tree.
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: Is is is very large in comparison to what has me actually measured. So it seems it is, it doesn't really tackle the spin flipping the proper way.
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: So we are we're be blind with the spin flipping our case. But while we do see is that if we use. So it's a bit. It's a lot of corners here but
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: If you use and the SLO model.
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: Will be a green color here is you don't see it, but it's kind of the most of the simulations were done with the SLO without sprinkling and we if we use the eg yellow with a spin flip or a woman and rebuild three
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: As they did in a manner aconites we do not absorb any difference between SLO and they each yellow with sprinkling
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: So is this is a difference between those two miles. So we see it's just basically fluctuating around here.
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: So this result we yet are more dependent and that's why we are saying is an estimation. So if we don't use any spin flip for the yellow. Then we have about 25% less of the strength in this region.
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: So,
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: As I say, small independent, but if we use the same malls and he was using the minor aconites
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: Then we get knocked off escorting okay
Liam Gaffney: Okay, thank you. I something I guess a little related to that with our process models. And I guess they don't really care on the, the origin of it from nuclear structure, but they need to get the strength correct which they're
Liam Gaffney: Doing anyway.
Liam Gaffney: So the impact on the our process models is probably more significant. In this case, maybe
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: Yeah, so I have a quote for for from Sunday's paper from 2017 because they are they are, where they they get values for the for the day.
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: Before one strength for the system, all that are way larger than what we get. But they also use a low margin for the one strength that is very low. So they have to compensate somehow for the, I think at the end of the day, the total
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: Gang in a way that so the outputs are they so please a calculation sees in a way similar if you use a very large see some more than me all you want strength.
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: So that's, that's your right to the end, it doesn't matter too much for the actual physical relations, if, if, if one is your one support where it matters, it's a it's a total value for the answer. Unfortunately, this region, but from a fundamental nuclear physics point of view.
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: We, we think that these values are very large values that will be obtained useless law. One day each yellow with the pink slip our more recent one is
Liam Gaffney: You know, I can agree that definitely the
Liam Gaffney: Nucleus should be correct.
Liam Gaffney: That's important. So are there any more questions from the audience.
Liam Gaffney: I'm not seeing any extra hands in the in the participants menu. So if you're having trouble with with that you can just go ahead and unmute yourself, you'll pop up to the top of the screen and we can
Liam Gaffney: Hear your question.
Liam Gaffney: No, I don't see any. But I just have one more question that didn't get asked and didn't get answered skipping back a bit to the experiment or side, if you don't mind that you do these
Liam Gaffney: Polarization measurements in the clovers. But as far as I recall, not the whole the whole of the chemist and your gamma rays not clover detectors, they have other types of detectors, so presumably you have to take a limited set of your statistics to do that analysis.
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: I'm sorry, I didn't hear the last part of the question was,
Liam Gaffney: You must you must only take a limited set of your subset of your data.
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: Yes, yes, yes, yes. Yeah.
Liam Gaffney: The end. You throw you discard some
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: And then we only look at the event I have multiplicity to
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: And tours.
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: So we, we look for the rental scattering one that hits one crystal and and discovering to another crystal is either in horizontal direction or in vertical integration. So we only take events with multiplicity to and events that are
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: Either or something or vertical service Carlos away.
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: So we i don't i don't remember exactly the numbers, but
If
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: If we look here, and he says factor.
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: So,
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: Yeah, it's
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: Sad to say, is quite low. Yeah.
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: We record away a lot of
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: Data, we can only look at some some events or not, but
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: We cannot measure either the polarization
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: It's all like their production certain sensitivity of the arrays, we have for doing that, we have to do on recommendations. Again, the
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: The coefficients of the American relations and then we have enough that this is for that. So we could only look at the cemetery and say qualitatively series positive for
Liam Gaffney: That make sense.
Liam Gaffney: Okay, I'll leave it open, just for a few more seconds. If anybody has the last minute question.
Liam Gaffney: If not, then I will thank Frank. Again, thank you very much for a wonderful topic this topic.
Liam Gaffney: And and just before we leave. I just advertise for next week's talk. So a week on Monday on the ninth of November, we have an Samuel Giuliani from Ms. You
Liam Gaffney: Will be talking about our process so appropriate follow on from from this week's talk and from a density functional theory framework. So please join us again next week at 3pm BST. And thank you again, Frank, for example.
Philip Adsley: GMT GMT.
Liam Gaffney: GMT. Yes. We thank you, Phil. Yes, the clocks change right yes GMT don't arrive at beaten him 50. Okay, thank you very much. Goodbye.
Frank Leonel Bello Garrote: I will say rental house on chatting with the really I don't know if
Rolf-Dietmar Herzberg: Yes.
Rolf-Dietmar Herzberg: Leave else who wants wants to join in wants to stay on very glad
Rolf-Dietmar Herzberg: I see Marcos has just disappeared.
Rolf-Dietmar Herzberg: He would have been
Liam Gaffney: leave you to it. I think he's a co host. So that's
Liam Gaffney: Okay.
Rolf-Dietmar Herzberg: It doesn't close, otherwise I would have just opened another zoom and sent you an invitation link.
Liam Gaffney: No, well,
Liam Gaffney: I will try now to stop the recording and James I love to cook this the end. All right.